{"id":836,"date":"2006-08-30T09:45:43","date_gmt":"2006-08-30T14:45:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.joeduffy.net\/blog\/2006\/08\/collecting-debts\/"},"modified":"2006-08-30T09:45:43","modified_gmt":"2006-08-30T14:45:43","slug":"collecting-debts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.joeduffy.net\/blog\/2006\/08\/collecting-debts\/","title":{"rendered":"Collecting Debts"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Casinos As Debt Collectors<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><p>By I.  Nelson Rose<br \/>\n<!-- Begin  News Code --><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wagerweb.com\/affiliatesred\/AF3376\/23\/\/ww3.wagerweb.com\/join.htm\">WagerWeb <\/a><br \/>\n<!-- End  News Code --><br \/>\nContributing Writer<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>A large casino may be stuck with more than  $10 million every year in bum checks and bounced markers. <\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>How to collect?<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>Debt collectors often make  their money by, well, collecting debts. They are not paid by the hour, but  depend for their livelihood upon their ability to extract money from reluctant  customers. In the past, this sometimes led to problems. Debt collection is  consistently one of the top consumer complaints.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>In 1977, the United States  Congress found &#8220;There is abundant evidence of the use of abusive,  deceptive and unfair debt collection practices by many debt collectors.&#8221;  It reacted by passing the federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>The Act spells out what  outside debt collectors can and cannot do. Some are obvious, such as not  threatening violence. Others are more complicated and technical, such as  normally not making phone calls after 9 p.m. or before 8 a.m. and not revealing  that the call is for collection of a debt if someone other than the debtor or  his\/her family answers the phone. A debt collector who makes a mistake is  violating federal law.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>Does this Act apply to  casinos? How about their lawyers? <\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>The question is of more than  academic interest. The stakes are high.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>First, of course, there is the  money. Legal gaming operations directly lend billions of dollars each year to  their patrons, and have to chase down hundreds of millions of dollars that are  not paid back in time.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>The National Gambling<\/a> Impact Study  Commission, created by Congress, asked me to do a study in 1998 on credit and  the casino industry. I found that the 12 casinos in Atlantic City that year issued approximately  $2.13 billion in counter-checks, markers, to their patrons. This means that, in  just this one city, players borrow more than $2 billion each year from casinos. <\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>This does not include personal  checks written directly to the casinos or to others, or, most importantly,  patrons&#8217; use of credit cards, ATMs or other forms of credit used to get cash to gamble.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>Most patrons were able to pay  off most of their loans by the end of their trips, and the markers were  canceled as paid in full. Players redeemed more than $1.58 billion in markers  prior to deposit.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>For some, however, luck was  not as kind. So $543,174,000 in markers remained unpaid after the players had  left the casinos.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>Most of this money was  recovered through the normal procedure of depositing the markers for collection  through the banking system: The casinos collected $424,400,000 from the  players&#8217; banks in this way. <\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>This means that $118,774,000  bounced. Having to chase down more than $100 million in bad debts every year  turns casinos and their lawyers into major collection agencies.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>Successful collection  agencies, I might add. Casinos eventually collected more than $91 million of  these bum markers. So, of $2 billion lent by Atlantic City casinos, only 1.3% was not  repaid. Still, that means $28 million had to be written off.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>Obviously some of these bum  markers are from people who cannot pay. But some of this money is owed by  people who, for one reason or another, simply refuse. <\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>Casinos sometimes have to sue  their (former) best patrons. Or they sell the debt to an outside collection  agency, which then files a lawsuit. But gambling debts are not always  collectable in a court of law. What&#8217;s a debt collector to do?<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>Today&#8217;s state licensed casinos  do not break kneecaps. In fact, in states like Nevada there are detailed regulations  covering how gaming debts may be collected.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>But if the Fair Debt  Collection Practices Act applies, casinos are opening themselves to civil  damages and fines if they don&#8217;t strictly comply with federal technical  requirements as well.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>Any debt collector subject to  the Act may be liable for actual damages suffered by a person as a result of  the &#8220;abusive&#8221; collection practices. It is obviously hard to put a  dollar figure on being awakened at, say, 3 a.m. So Congress added an additional  fine of up to $1,000 per violation, plus having to pay court costs and the  debtor&#8217;s attorneys fees.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>It might be worth paying  $1,000 to collect a single debt of $300,000. But violators are also exposing  themselves up to class actions. Lawyers have an incentive to sue, because the  debt collector can be made to pay up to $500,000 or 1% of its net worth,  whichever is less, to the class plaintiffs, as well as attorney fees and costs.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>So, are casinos subject to this  federal law?<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>The answer is probably not.  The federal law is limited to companies whose primary business is debt  collection. The business that is owed the money is usually not subject to the  debt, unless it does something stupid, like using a phony name.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>In 2000, federal District  Court Judge Philip M. Pro ruled that Caesars  Palace could not be sued for alleged  violations of the Act, because Caesars   Palace was trying to  collect debts owed to it by a patron. It was not acting as a debt collector for  some other company.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>The one potential problem was  that, legally, &#8220;Caesars   Palace&#8221; does not  exist. The actual company name is Desert  Palace, which is doing business as  (&#8220;dba&#8221;) &#8220;Caesars   Palace.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>The judge said this was O.K.,  because its in-house debt collectors and outside lawyers always used the name  &#8220;Caesars.&#8221; The patron could not claim that it was &#8220;using a name  other than its own.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>So, at least in Nevada, when casinos  using their own name go after deadbeat patrons, they cannot be sued under the  federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act.<\/p>\n<p>\n<p>\n<p>Still, casinos tell me that they try to keep to the  letter of this law &#8212; just in case.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Casinos As Debt Collectors By I. Nelson Rose WagerWeb Contributing Writer A large casino may be stuck with more than $10 million every year in bum checks and bounced markers. How to collect? Debt collectors often make their money by, well, collecting debts. 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